Danielle Deadwyler offers his thoughts on Hollywood and systemic racism after she missed on a 2023 Oscar nomination for her role as Granny Until-Mobley, mother of Emmett Till, in director Chinonye Chukwu’s film Until.

Deadwyler was a guest on Kermode & Mayo’s Take in an episode from the podcast released on Thursday. During the conversation, the actress was asked about Chukwu posts on Instagram on January 24 about “brazen misogyny towards black women” after the film received no Oscar nominations earlier in the day.

The actress said she agreed with the director and went on to describe the “residual effects” of systemic racism on both a governmental and societal level. She mentioned that carried away by the wind Star Hattie McDaniel couldn’t sit with her white co-stars when she became the first black person to win an Oscar at the 1940 ceremony, and Deadwyler added that it should be widely understood that racism has a “lingering effect on spaces and institutions” in today’s society.

“We’re talking about people who may have chosen not to see the film,” said the station eleven alum said about Until. “We are talking about misogynoir. It comes in all kinds of ways. Whether direct or indirect, it has an impact on who we are.

Deadwyler’s response included the term “misogynoir,” which is a word attributed to researcher and activist Moya Bailey to describe the racism experienced by black women.

The actress continued, “The question is more about people who live in whiteness, white people’s assessment of what spaces privileged to them are doing.”

Deadwyler earned BAFTA, Screen Actors Guild, NAACP Image and Critics Choice nominations for Until and was seen by many Oscar pundits as likely to land a Best Actress Oscar nomination for the film which follows Till-Bradley seeking justice for the murder of her son Emmett, who was 14 at the time of his death in 1955.

After the movie failed Oscars gratitude, Chukwu posted a photo of herself with activist Myrlie Evers-Williams, who is pictured in Until. The director added a caption that read, in part, “We live in a world and work in industries that are so aggressively committed to defending whiteness and perpetuating shameless misogyny toward black women.”